Unrealistic Feature Request

JimmyDansbo · Post by **JimmyDansbo** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:36 am

Please ensure that the Commander X16 will solve the current Corona crisis, world hunger and ensure world peace.

JimmyDansbo · Post by **JimmyDansbo** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:18 pm

Maybe it should be possible to delete ones own posts?

Yuki · Post by **Yuki** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:04 pm

4 hours ago, JimmyDansbo said:

Maybe it should be possible to delete ones own posts?

I'd say no for various reasons, but it's up to forum admins.

Perifractic · Post by **Perifractic** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:22 pm

Thank you for your suggestion. At the present time the Commander X16 will not be able to solve the Corona crisis, however we hope a future firmware update may correspond with that happening. In the meantime please ensure your preferred virus checker is installed.

SlithyMatt · Post by **SlithyMatt** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:17 am

Have you tried a Raspberry Pi? They are surprisingly capable.

StephenHorn · Post by **StephenHorn** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:04 am

4 hours ago, SlithyMatt said:

Have you tried a Raspberry Pi? They are surprisingly capable.

You have no idea how many times I've wanted to suggest this to the folks asking for Python support... ?

But since the devs haven't said "no" to solving world hunger and ensuring world peace, I suppose we'll have to make do with those.

JimmyDansbo · Post by **JimmyDansbo** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:26 am

20 minutes ago, StephenHorn said:

But since the devs haven't said "no" to solving world hunger and ensuring world peace, I suppose we'll have to make do with those.

I was also amazed it is only the Corona they are not willing to take on at the moment ?

JazzaMega · Post by **JazzaMega** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:12 am

On 4/28/2020 at 6:04 AM, StephenHorn said:

You have no idea how many times I've wanted to suggest this to the folks asking for Python support... ?

But since the devs haven't said "no" to solving world hunger and ensuring world peace, I suppose we'll have to make do with those.

Wait, that's an actual request?

Python?!?! ON A 65C02?!?!

??? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ? ??????? ???? ??????????? ?????????!?!

Yuki · Post by **Yuki** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:14 am

1 hour ago, JazzaMega said:

Wait, that's an actual request?

Python?!?! ON A 65C02?!?!

??? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ? ??????? ???? ??????????? ?????????!?!

Well, at the same time, Texas Instruments managed to fit Python on a Z80, and then removed ASM/C support...

Dude, you can't imagine how their community was pissed.

StephenHorn · Post by **StephenHorn** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:06 am

5 hours ago, JazzaMega said:

Wait, that's an actual request?

Python?!?! ON A 65C02?!?!

??? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ? ??????? ???? ??????????? ?????????!?!

It's not that it's completely unreasonable to bring Python to a 65c02, at least in a theoretical sense. It's more that there's already a relatively inexpensive platform available that runs Python, allows for bit-banging on GPIO, outputs video, and will generally do everything the X16 can. I just don't see the point in programming with Python on an X16.

Yes, fine, the RPi is bogged down with its Linux OS, and there's more layers of encapsulation separating the programmer from the bare metal. But wouldn't that still apply to a Python implementation running on an X16? And if there's no appeal to PEEK and POKE things by hand (and VPEEK and VPOKE), and instead you want to add more libraries on top to reimplement the graphical features that'll be present in BASIC... well, again, why are we doing this on the X16, again? It strikes me as one of those college projects to run Linux on a toaster: the only purpose is to say "I did it", and then never touch it again. I'd reiterate that there's nothing wrong with that, but then it becomes a question of "why are people asking others to do the work for them, instead of working on it themselves"?