Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

desertfish · Post by **desertfish** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:13 pm

I know but they don't work in 640x480 only in the 320x200x256 mode? (SCREEN 128)

edit: also I'm not making a GUI of any sort, just an image drawn via drawing routines ?

Lorin Millsap · Post by **Lorin Millsap** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:02 am

I know but they don't work in 640x480 only in the 320x200x256 mode? (SCREEN 128)

edit: also I'm not making a GUI of any sort, just an image drawn via drawing routines [emoji846]

That’s because there isn’t enough VRAM to do 640x480 in 256 color mode. The only way you could do it in 640x480 is to do it in text mode which is debatable that is even a GUI. Or to reduce the color depth.

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BruceMcF · Post by **BruceMcF** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:38 pm

13 hours ago, Lorin Millsap said:

That’s because there isn’t enough VRAM to do 640x480 in 256 color mode. The only way you could do it in 640x480 is to do it in text mode which is debatable that is even a GUI. Or to reduce the color depth.

Yes, it would seem like the main appeal of a GUI applications over text mode (whether a TUI or just plain command-key text mode) would be for tools for graphical design, particularly for game design ... and it would seem like the color depth would be more important than the 640x480 resolution for the GUI. Even working on lower color depth 640x480 art, you could have a full screen viewer mode, and the GUI editing mode have a slidable window into a portion of the art, shown shown in 320x240.

desertfish · Post by **desertfish** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:22 pm

Since I want to be able to draw graphics on the x16 regardless of resolution, I am making my own graphics drawing routines. It's just meant to be able to draw simple graphs and some text and because I'm learning about how to program the vera's different (bitmap)graphicsmodes. I'm using the Amiga's workbench GUI as a mockup to test my code and because the resulting image is interesting to me (having owned and heavily used Amigas for about 8 years as a kid) ?

kelli217 · Post by **kelli217** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:23 am

I would really like X16 BASIC to support graphics commands for 320x240x8 and 640x480x2.

Cyber · Post by **Cyber** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:39 am

9 minutes ago, kelli217 said:

I would really like X16 BASIC to support graphics commands for 320x240x8 and 640x480x2.

I think some after market addon solutions will be presented after a while. In the spirit of Super Expander and Simon's Basic.

calcmandan · Post by **calcmandan** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:10 am

On 11/29/2020 at 1:39 PM, BlueSpartan076 said:

i do think that the commander x16 should have its own built-from-the-ground-up GUI OS though. like its own design not GEOS.

If a group of GUI designers/coders were to get together and develop/package something like GEOS for the CX16, I'd pay for it.

SlithyMatt · Post by **SlithyMatt** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:25 pm

12 hours ago, calcmandan said:

I'd pay for it

You won't need to pay extra - GEOS will ship in the ROM

Elektron72 · Post by **Elektron72** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:57 pm

2 hours ago, SlithyMatt said:

You won't need to pay extra - GEOS will ship in the ROM

Did the team obtain permission to use GEOS code in the Commander X16?

SlithyMatt · Post by **SlithyMatt** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:58 pm

1 hour ago, Elektron72 said:

Did the team obtain permission to use GEOS code in the Commander X16?

Yes, along with the Kernal and BASIC