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Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:34 pm
by martinot


On 12/31/2021 at 6:53 PM, Ffin72 said:




Facebook and YouTube would be out of the question, but there are plenty of sites that work fine with Amiga browsers, such as Aminet and English Amiga Board. I can live with that.



I would miss YouTube, but not Facebook. I also suspect a lot of other modern sites would be extremly difficult, like banks, etc.

I would probably personally not be able to live with that. :)


Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:27 pm
by Ffin72


On 12/31/2021 at 7:34 PM, martinot said:




I would miss YouTube, but not Facebook. I also suspect a lot of other modern sites would be extremly difficult, like banks, etc.



I would probably personally not be able to live with that. ?



Phone and tablet apps easily fill in the gaps.


Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:08 pm
by Tatwi


On 12/31/2021 at 2:34 PM, martinot said:




I would miss YouTube, but not Facebook. I also suspect a lot of other modern sites would be extremly difficult, like banks, etc.



I would probably personally not be able to live with that. ?



This is why I think you have to make an entire imaginary universe to go along with your imaginary computer. There just aren't any logical reasons to not use modern computers/tablets/phones for one's modern life, even when factoring in cost, availability, and compatibility. But hey, nothing stopping us from reveling in the imaginary!

It would be neat to live in a world where computers never advanced passed the 8 bit design. For some foible of physics that was just the best that could be achieved. Yet we had most of the other neat tech, such as giant LCD TVs, smartphones, wearables, e-books/e-paper, etc. The 8 Bit universe... what would that look like?


Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:35 pm
by martinot


On 12/31/2021 at 10:27 PM, Ffin72 said:




Phone and tablet apps easily fill in the gaps.



Sure. But that is a little chearting, beacuse then you can say that a toaster will fulfill all your computing needs; just just other devices that you have at your disposal. ?

Kind of defeats the question in the thread start.


Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:38 pm
by martinot


On 12/31/2021 at 11:08 PM, Tatwi said:




This is why I think you have to make an entire imaginary universe to go along with your imaginary computer. There just aren't any logical reasons to not use modern computers/tablets/phones for one's modern life, even when factoring in cost, availability, and compatibility. But hey, nothing stopping us from reveling in the imaginary!



It would be neat to live in a world where computers never advanced passed the 8 bit design. For some foible of physics that was just the best that could be achieved. Yet we had most of the other neat tech, such as giant LCD TVs, smartphones, wearables, e-books/e-paper, etc. The 8 Bit universe... what would that look like?



Yes, I like retro machines for nostalgia reasons and hobby, but I would not like to stop the computer evolution/revolution that we have seen.

I think the future would be in worse shape if we stopped technology from being better and improved.


Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:00 am
by Ffin72


On 12/31/2021 at 11:35 PM, martinot said:




Sure. But that is a little chearting, beacuse then you can say that a toaster will fulfill all your computing needs; just just other devices that you have at your disposal. ?



Kind of defeats the question in the thread start.



Not really, I don't use Android for gaming, emulation or any kind of office tasks (spreadsheets, word processing, CAD, email etc.). An Amiga can fill all of those needs.

 

As for banking, I use it once or twice a month. Using an Android device, especially one as old as mine, doesn't seem like cheating to me. I'm more likely to use it when I'm not at home, it's never going to be my main device.


Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:35 am
by martinot


On 1/1/2022 at 1:00 AM, Ffin72 said:




Not really, I don't use Android for gaming, emulation or any kind of office tasks (spreadsheets, word processing, CAD, email etc.). An Amiga can fill all of those needs.



 



As for banking, I use it once or twice a month. Using an Android device, especially one as old as mine, doesn't seem like cheating to me. I'm more likely to use it when I'm not at home, it's never going to be my main device.



I think you totally missed my point (and also the whole point of the thread). But I give up. Instead I wish you Happy New Year! ?


Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:20 am
by TomXP411


On 12/28/2021 at 7:47 PM, Strider said:




Like @JimmyDansbo, for me, it already exists, and it's the Raspberry Pi. The Pi4 is a more than capable alternative for me. I use an 8GB model, running off SSD over USB3, and it's impressively fast. I use it for most of my Arduino and circuit design, and do a bit of gaming on it. I use the 3B+ for classic console emulation, and between the two that's good enough for my alternative.



That being said, I am VERY tempted to grab a Atomic Pi, an x86 single board, so you have more OS, software options, and more horsepower to play with. It's powered by an Intel Atom x5-Z8350 quad core @ 1.44GHz with a 480MHz IGPU. It's limited to 2GB DDR3L-1600 RAM, but for my needs, that's more than enough. I want to use it for more demanding emulation, or see if I can get it running something like Win 95 OSR2.5, just for kicks. The big drawback is drivers for older operating systems, but I may still give it a go and see what I can get to run on it.



 



The problem I have with the Pi is that the modern web slightly overwhelms that machine. Something similar to the Pi, but with about 2x the CPU power would probably be ideal for a simple desktop system. 

 


Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:12 am
by kelli217


On 12/31/2021 at 8:20 PM, TomXP411 said:




The problem I have with the Pi is that the modern web slightly overwhelms that machine. Something similar to the Pi, but with about 2x the CPU power would probably be ideal for a simple desktop system. 



The 4 and 400 are so close to being acceptable for everyday use, at least when you have a maxed-out 8GB RAM version.


Alternative everyday computer/games system.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:43 am
by TomXP411


On 12/31/2021 at 8:12 PM, kelli217 said:




The 4 and 400 are so close to being acceptable for everyday use, at least when you have a maxed-out 8GB RAM version.



Yes, that's what is frustrating... it's "almost there." 

My biggest complaint about the Pi platform, aside from the anemic CPU speeds, is the lack of local bus storage. The Pi seriously needs either an M.2 or SATA storage interface.