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Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:48 am
by kelli217

I have lots of thoughts on the limits of what can be accomplished on this platform. Given such projects as GEOS, and Contiki, and Atari GOS, something really amazing is probably possible.


Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:06 am
by desertfish

The Final Cartridge 3 for the Commodore64 also had a fairly capable programmable GUI system built into the cartridge (but much simpler than GEOS). However I never actually used it to be honest. For me it wasn't anything more than a gimmick that I didn't really understand the benefits of.   I may have used the notepad application once or twice to write and print a letter with in proportional font....

Also from what I can remember that GUI desktop was extensible with programs that you could write yourself, there was an 'sdk' of sorts to go with the cartridge. But I have never seen any user written application for it unfortunately.

The Final Cartridge III - Wikipedia

 


Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:24 pm
by Jakebullet70


On 11/29/2020 at 11:39 PM, BlueSpartan076 said:




i do think that the commander x16 should have its own built-from-the-ground-up GUI OS though. like its own design not GEOS.



I agree, GEOS was written in a different time and really, what are you going to do with it?

 


Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:32 pm
by Jakebullet70

For me i would like one in text mode mode. Not graphics. 

ASM routines for windows (drawing, saving) and printing - getting text on the screen and then just standard BASIC that glues it all together. Store common color - system vars in banked memory.

That way the community can extend it. Something like this.

 

 

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Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:59 pm
by Fnord42

Ah, Turbo Vision. Good times. It was only a TUI library, though; you couldn't have several applications share the screen.

The concept of a text mode windowing system did work surprisingly well, though, even if it wasn't designed to do multitasking.


Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:06 pm
by Fnord42

I just found out that Borland has released the Turbo Vision sources (MIT licensed) back in 1997(!) and there are still people working on/with it!

And yes, there's a Linux port. ?


Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:02 pm
by Ffin72


On 11/28/2020 at 9:35 AM, kliepatsch said:




And this guy



 



He's known as flashjazzcat in the A8 scene. A very talented coder (and musician), he writes the firmware for a lot of the most popular A8 hardware expansions but his GOS is closed source atm, tied to those hardware expansions and still very much in the design phase: read the thread on it's development here.


Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:29 pm
by Lorin Millsap
It already has it technically. Part of GEOS is already built in.


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Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:57 pm
by desertfish

So I am making a thing

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It's just a picture that is drawn though (640x240x4) and currently is very slow to draw because all pixels are drawn individually in unoptimized loops. Also text is still missing as you can see.  Work in progress, for giggles   Drawing routines are now fairly optimized ?

 

 


Possible GUI OS for the Commander X16?

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:03 pm
by Lorin Millsap
We already have GEOS. It’s not fully working because priorities. But it is there. The draw routines we have in ROM are very fast  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk