Hi funkhead,
Thanks for your response to my post. As promised here is a reply to your message., I've broken it into many secretions as there was a lot of content in your post.
funkheld wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:45 am
Hi good afternoon.
There is also vpoke/vpeek on the cc65, prog8 and other nice things in the languages to get to know the x16 in the system. you then create these in the language.
Yes, there are many languages available on the X-16 platform. Thanks to the emulator, plus a long history of BASIC V2.0 and general 6502 assembly the higher level languages have evolved/adapted before the hardware actually shipped. I wish I had time to learn and use them all, or even keep track of everything is available. It's a delight to have so many options, but a curse not to have the time.
Some background for you about me. With the school owned PETs in the early 1983 I started with BASIC, moved to a VIC-20 at home advancing to learn 6502 machine code, and eventually went onto a Super PET that ran several higher languages. By my estimates I've worked with over 50 different languages in my career and about as many different platforms too. I expect to see more of both in the future.
As for VPoke command in other languages I can't speak to if it functions exactly as the one in BASIC, or the underlying implementations are the same. I would expect that there might be differences between VPoke in Prog 8 and BASIC, but I can't say definitively.
funkheld wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:45 am
You have to rethink the x16, otherwise you can also buy a c64.
I'm unsure of what you mean by "rethink", could you please explain further.
As for a C64, yes I could purchase one but for me it was a smarter choice to go with a new X16. Like any hardware it degrades of time/use and some original parts aren't made/available anymore. I know there are modern replacements for some, but sourcing and repairing does take time away form using a machine.
funkheld wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:45 am
With the basic of the x16 you can also use Vpoke/VPeek, VERA and other exciting things.
This sys also does the basic slowly.
Yes, there are many advantages of the X16 compared to the retro machines that inspired it.
I'm not following your comment "This sys also does the basic slowly." Could you please elaborate?
funkheld wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:45 am
At 75 years old, it's fun for me to see this depth of the x16.
I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it, just like many here on the forum. I think the X16 could be fun for any age, but I think it is really person dependant.
funkheld wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:45 am
Unfortunately I can't get an x16 from Germany that quickly,
otherwise I would already have the x16.
I'm in Canada and it did take some time to get an X16, but I feel it was worth the wait. I have little experience with international ordering off the continent, other than wait times increase and shipping costs can be significant.
funkheld wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:45 am
There are also few basic programmers for the x16.
Pity.
If you are talking about people who program, there are a lot left over from the Commodore days
The X16 will allow more people to take on the joys and pains of BASIC.
If you are talking about software, there are so many basic programs out there that could be ported to the X16, both from the Commodore side and the other old platforms that ran BASIC. One thought I had was to take all the programs from the VIC-20 basic manual and adapt them to run on the X16. I would of course get rid of some of the bugs and perhaps provide some better structure to those programs with some explanation of why I did the changes. Unfortunately that project is going to have to wait.
funkheld wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:45 am
Have fun with your x16.
Why does x16 hardware take so long to get up and running?
How do you update the hardware on the x16?
I am having fun so far with my limited time (and effort.) For me being able to dedicate time to it right now is very hard, I've got too many projects I need to complete beforehand.
As for updating the hardware, others have pointed you (and) me in the right direction.
Finally, it is a pleasure to be able to talk to you and other users around the world about the X16.
Regards!
