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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:13 pm
by Ed Minchau
28 minutes ago, Scott Robison said:
And if they wanted it pronounced garaje, or jiraffe, or ... ?
Begun, the gif wars have.
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:08 pm
by kelli217
Acronyms have little to no relation to how the words they abbreviate are pronounced. Otherwise, SCUBA would rhyme with 'Bubba.' LASER would rhyme with 'passer.' JPEG (which is a combination of an initialism and an acronym) would rhyme with 'trayf egg.'
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:16 am
by BruceMcF
6 hours ago, kelli217 said:
Acronyms have little to no relation to how the words they abbreviate are pronounced. Otherwise, SCUBA would rhyme with 'Bubba.' LASER would rhyme with 'passer.' JPEG (which is a combination of an initialism and an acronym) would rhyme with 'trayf egg.'
Your SCUBA and LASER examples are about morphing the vowel pronunciation. Neither leading consonant is morphed.
They would go with the inventor declaring it is pronounced "gife" to rhyme with knife. I would have been down with that back in the 90s.
I am not following your third example, JPEG rhymes with "something egg". What's fun about JPEG is that it has a voiced, unwritten vowel, like one-time coach Krnvic of the Melbourne Knights. But there is no morphing of the consonant between "Joint" and "JAY-peg".
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8 hours ago, Ed Minchau said:
Begun, the gif wars have.
At least when everyone read that, they read it as being pronounced "correctly".
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:08 am
by kelli217
The P in JPEG stands for Photography. "Trayf" is the opposite of "kosher." It rhymes with "waif."
You might note that the S in LASER if pronounced as in the abbreviated word, would go from a voiced to a sibilant sound.
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:26 am
by BruceMcF
1 hour ago, kelli217 said:
The P in JPEG stands for Photography. "Trayf" is the opposite of "kosher." It rhymes with "waif."
You might note that the S in LASER if pronounced as in the abbreviated word, would go from a voiced to a sibilant sound.
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Ah, but we are talking about morphing the leading consonant here. And all your examples are morphing to make it more like the natural pronunciation of the acronym when read as a word ... as P without H is not pronounced F ... not to impose an unnatural pronunciation on them.
If GIF was the most natural way to spell "JIF", JIFFY clocks would be GIFFY clocks.
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:26 am
by kelli217
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:35 am
by Scott Robison
8 minutes ago, kelli217 said:
The best part of this is the last comment (at least, last as I read it): "The correct pronunciation is heef, with the gi pronounced as in Gila monster. Obvs."
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:54 pm
by ZeroByte
I just sent this text to myself (an iPhone) and to a coworker (an Android phone):
"Hey check out this funny GIF I saw" and had the phones read the text out loud.
Siri says it wrong.
Droid says it right.
Now I'm sad.
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:44 am
by BruceMcF
On 4/27/2021 at 10:35 AM, Scott Robison said:
The best part of this is the last comment (at least, last as I read it): "The correct pronunciation is heef, with the gi pronounced as in Gila monster. Obvs." ?
Well, the correct pronunciation of Gila Monster is "Heela", since it is named after a river in Arizona which was originally a river in Mexico, so it follows the Spanish pronunciation of "GI". "I am a Spanish speaker, so I pronounce it 'HEEF'!", that's a lovely way to settle the debate.
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:50 am
by x16tial
On 4/26/2021 at 7:35 PM, Scott Robison said:
The best part of this is the last comment (at least, last as I read it): "The correct pronunciation is heef, with the gi pronounced as in Gila monster. Obvs." ?
I thought s/he was talking about pronouncing it with the G like in rouge (not rogue). Sort of like "zheef", sounds very euro-french, I think it's my new preferred way.